Message 4 of I doubt that your wireless adapter behaves that way. In fact, in some cases it confuses the adapter and get a wireless connectivity problem.
Message 5 of Message 6 of If you take a look at the Netgear marketing they tend to imply a single SSID they way that I read it so that you can take advantage of the 5ghz when you're local to the AP, but fall back to the 2Ghz when interference it too much. Thats the way I've got it running on my 's. Message 7 of Two bands are user to use "best" band in environment you are in. Message 8 of I dont agree :- I agree it helps you to know what network you're connecting to for troubleshooting, but you can tell that from the channel number any normally the wireless client software.
Having 2 separate network profiles or single network profile will not change the connection behavior. Just like jmizoguchi says, its all about the connection hopping. Not alot of people knows their 2. In some cases, if your SSIDs are the same - you will have a wireless connectivity problem when you are connecting client that was 2. If the OP is saying is true, it could be a probablity if thats the case. Message 9 of Mars Mug.
Susie23 wrote: In some cases, if your SSIDs are the same - you will have a wireless connectivity problem when you are connecting client that was 2. Otherwise, using the same SSID for both bands should not be an issue at all for the adaptor and the router really should allow it. The adaptor should be able to distinguish by frequency band and by the unique MAC addresses for both the router radios. Message 10 of I figure you can do this on any of the rangemax devices anyway, so its just some clever marketing, but I think it also illustrates your point there there are sometimes practical applications to keep them separate rather than the other scenario with my lazyness to handling SSID's :- I think they're pitching it in this case you can have the same SSID's for both bands for 'normal' use as I proposed, but then have a dedicated 5ghz exclusively for optimized purposes.
Message 11 of It wont let me have the same SSID and thats a problem Message 12 of Just another bug in the firmware or a deliberate change I wonder. Message 13 of Message 14 of Hmmm, I like the change. I would rather KNOW which is 2. What am I missing?
Message 15 of Message 16 of I guess I am trying to understand the benefit of having one SSID for both bands and letting the device choose. I theorize that people just don't like change, and that there is no benefit whatsoever. Message 17 of Rhyalus - take a look at my post at the top of this page. I guess the best explanation for having separate ID's is a form of basic Quality of Service.
The idea being that you deliberately attach the 5ghz capable devices that are local and dedicate that radio to serving them multi-stream content video, voice etc. Everything else you leave to fight out connection speeds, retransmissions etc on the 2. My personal view on having the same SSID's is that anything that isn't capable of using the 5ghz or is too far away will just fail over to the 2.
To do this, you will need an ethernet cable. Depending on how far away these routers will be to each other, the ethernet cable might need to be quite long. Connect the cable to one of the LAN ports on router 1 and then route the cable through the house to the placement of router 2. This next bit is very important and is the biggest reason why people have problems with this solution:.
So, make sure the ethernet cable is connected to a LAN-port on both routers. Once they are both connected with the cable and they are powered on, you are done. Congratulations, you now have two routers in your home where one is working as an actual router while the other one is working as an access point, extending your WiFi and giving you more ethernet ports in other parts of the house.
If you want, you can go an extra step further to make sure that they do not interfere with others. Since you now have two routers that are relatively close to each other, you need to make sure that they do not interfere with each other. What do I mean with that? You see, when a router is putting out WiFi, it does so in a channel. If both routers are using the same channel to put out WiFi signals, they will interfere and disrupt each other. So, you want to make sure that they use different channels.
A channel is a certain frequency. As you may know, radio comes in at a special frequency, and if you want to change the radio channel, you change the frequency. But you may also have heard that two radio stations interfere with each other, if you are in the middle of two cities, or if you are using an FM Transmitter , for example.
In your router settings, you can change the channel on your WiFi signal. To solve this, there is a program that you can download for free called SSIDer that can help you choose the best channel for your WiFi.
The problem with SSIDer is that it can be complicated at startup, with a lot of graphs and numbers. MetaGeek, a fantastic company that is creating WiFi solutions for companies and professionals, have made a guide on how to use SSIDer and how you can find the best channel for your situation.
Check it out down below. As always, there are other options to extend the WiFi. The latest technology and the best thing that is currently on the market is a Mesh WiFi system.
You can have two or three routers in your home and they all talk to each other to improve your WiFi and making sure that you have a stable network at home. An example of this is the Google Mesh Network , which you can find on Amazon. It is a product with three smaller routers, called nodes, that work together to build a mesh system. One of them is the main router that is connected to the network while the others are extending the WiFi connection further.
The biggest advantage with mesh systems instead of connecting routers together the way we have done is that everything is wireless, and the products are made to be wireless all the time, without ever needing a cable. They also work better if you would go from one room to another, as everything is seamlessly connected. You can of course just get a range extender as well but as they tend to perform bad, losing a lot of speed and often lose signal as well, the mesh system is much more preferred, as well as connecting two routers as we did in this guide.
I must be doing something wrong. Following the procedure if I change the router 2 ip address using I have changed chrome browser to use the new IP, but it says address not reachable.
If I continue and do router 1 configuration and hook up the routers, it seems to work. I tested this by leaving the router 2 SSID something different than router 1. And then wireless connected my phone to router 2 ssid and it was successful, so I think it works.
I also tested using ping. Factory reset 2 and before changing anything I could ping But something funny. I typed ping Thanks in advance for your help. Hey, Are you connected directly to the router with a network cable and not connected to anything else? It could be that you are on a laptop that is connected to a wireless network and that can cause problem. Regarding the , I would think that this is the IP address that you are working on.
Make sure that the computer is on X network. And connected with a cable to the router and you should have no problem reaching it.
Yes i am using a laptop connected only to the router. Wireless is turned off. I figured it out though, the was a clue. Then I could connect to the router with its new IP address. Apparently when I first booted the laptop it WAS connected wirelessly to my network and that information was cached. If I selected AP mode in the router 2, upon reboot of the router, I could not contact it directly from the laptop, and the ping said something like media not connected.
But then when I plugged the routers together, then I could get to the router 2 web page by connecting to its IP address through the final network. Thank you for the information and response. I will be doing this for a neighbor and wanted to test the procedure at my home before. Hi, Is it possible to connect more than two WiFi routers together using the same principle at two? Thanks for this! Will devices know when to switch from one router to the other with this type of setup?
If I am connected with my phone to router 1 in the front of the house, then I move to the back of the house where router 2 is, will the phone switch over to this stronger signal even if it is still receiving a weak signal from router 1? Great question! The switching from one router to another roaming must be supported by both the router and the device. So, if you are using an older router, it may not support roaming. If both routers are made after , then they most likely support roaming, as defined by the WiFi Standards This feature is supported in most new devices, and most especially mesh routers.
If you do use an older router, you can force the connection to the stronger signal router by disconnecting your device phone from the network, and then reconnecting. Thank you for this tutorial.
Then you can download an application called Net Analyzer, which will tell you the MAC Address of the router you are currently connected to which should be unique to the router. There are plenty of other applications that can do this as well, however this is the first one I found that was able to accomplish it.
Thank you once again. I get the channel thing on 2,4Ghz. I think I am using channel 1 and channel But 5Ghz looks like a totally different story. Afraid to touch that stuff. Should I just leave the 5Ghz on auto? Generally, your router will be smart enough to auto set the channels appropriately do minimize interference with other devices around you, and leaving it on auto should work just fine. However, if you notice that your wifi connection is dropping, you can set the channels manually.
However, using SSIDer should help you if you have to manually set your channels. Thanks Adam! Hi Orest. If your concern is bandwidth loss, there really wont be any if you are plugging in your computer to that end router via an ethernet port as opposed to connecting the computer to the network via WiFi.
The biggest factors that will affect your bandwidth hardlined is your hardware, and distance. So if your cable is over feet long, you might see some bandwidth loss, but not significant. As for hardware, the quality of the cable will matter, but also the old router itself. So overall, nothing to worry about. Maybe a small loss in bandwidth, but nothing significant that will makes network speeds un-usable.
Thanks for the guide, I am able to setup the two netgear routers the way you described but I have one issue. Laptops connect fine over wifi but the mobile phones both pixel 3XL and iPhone 7Plus are unable to get IP address itself. I tried using inSSIDer to find a free channel and also with auto setting, in either case phones are not connecting. What could be wrong? Glad you are able to set it up, however, your issue is interesting.
Without any logs, it will be hard to diagnose. Did the phones connect to the Wifi before you created this setup? Also, do these devices connect to the network show as connected to the Wifi with the Wifi icon lit up , but not get assigned an IP Address?
Other than that, see if you can try to do a packet capture as that can provide more information as to what is going on. There might be information in the netgear router logs that might be able to help as well when you are logged into it.
I checked second router once more. Both routers support both type of connections. Maybe a bug in netgear firmware. For this to work I have to disconnect WAN completely. When I was trying create a bridge between two routers and have internet configured on both the routers WAN connection on primary and ADSL connection on secondary. In this scenario again mobiles are not getting IP.
How can I get this working? Sounds like quite the interesting setup. The second, would act as a wireless access point, and extend your connection. Then, on your primary router, you would have 2 WAN ports, and link aggregate them, such that if one WAN port fails, the other takes over. I am not sure if it would also work where they both have different public IP addresses the WAN ports , so this would need to be tested. In general, it really sounds like you want one to fail over once you have exhausted your bandwidth quota.
Given your current configuration, it does hypothetically seem possible to bridge them, but very difficult. Otherwise, it may be more difficult than its worth to get your current setup working. That said, it sounds like a bug to me in netgear firmware thats preventing this from happening.
However, just to be cautious, it would probably be difficult to flash the router back with netgear firmware if you decide to revert, so I would be cautious if you decide to try it.
I am trying to extend wifi. I have set the channel of secondary router same as that of my main router, selected main router from the list under bridge options in admin page of the extended router, disabled DHCP on my extended router and changed the IP address on the extended router.
After that i am not able to see the extended router in the wireless list. Please confirm if both these routers are compatible with each other. Or if my ISP has blocked this option from their side. Please help. Thanks for reading. It sounds like you did everything correctly. I have not used TP-Link routers much, but in there, you should have the ability to turn off or on wireless broadcasting for WiFi.
Have you changed the name of the wireless network on the secondary router to match the name of the wireless networking coming from the main router? Lastly, have you connected both of the routers via an Ethernet cable? For the most part, putting it in bridge mode should really cover all of what you need, and everything else done in addition should ensure that it works properly.
Other than that, your ISP should have no way of blocking this ability, unless they have provided you with the main router you use, and within there, the settings are limited.
This was very helpful. At Step 1 Configure the 1st router , setting it to AP mode launched another screen asking for the default gateway used router 1 addr and other info. I finally set it to wireless router mode and it worked. Much Appreciate the info, saving hard copy for future reference. If yes, is this the procedure? Connect to the 2nd router. If both were on, you would have a conflict, unless you used different IP addresses.
Yes, you can reserve a static IP address for the secondary router, on the primary router. That sounds correct. When connecting the router via the lab port is it OK to connect a switch to the first router only has 1 lab port and then connect the second router to the switch? Yup, that shouldnt be a problem at all.
The switch just expands the amount of LAN ports available. The setup would then be the same. It works at first but has a catchy issue: You can connect to the secondary router — works fine.
Then walk to the primary router- again it connects and works — BUT now go to the secondary one after having been connected to the primary, and it will no longer work if you wait about 15 minutes it works again. Happens with any device — laptops, iPhone, iPad, Android phone. Just have to wait the 15 min. Thank you for your input! That is an interesting issue to see, and seems likely that the Netgear routers may not support instant roaming protocols between the wireless signals.
I have not personally experienced this but I appreciate you providing your personal experience here with your Netgear routers. This could maybe work if you not only used a different SSID but also used a different network range on the second router. Depending on the router, it can also turn that WAN port into just another ethernet port.
Handy that. If you have a mac, and are running Mojave or above, there are a couple of handy built in tools. Option-Click the wifi icon in the top bar — this will give you a lot more information about your current connection. Though, the linksys router I worked with had a bad bridge mode that didnt work too well.
I have made a linksys router into a switch before which has been very convenient. I have forgotten you can do that with a Mac! Thanks for sharing with us! Would really appreciate your help! When connected to the second router, via LAN or Wireless , can you ping the primary router and access its Admin page? Can you test the inverse of 1.?
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